Arthur Penn and Scarface
Mr. Arthur Penn and ScarFace.jpg
Full name Arthur Penn
Alias Mr. Penn
Dung Beetle (by Harvey)
Arnold (by Penguin)
Affiliation Cobblepot crime family (formerly)

Falcone crime family (formerly)

Occupation Accountant (formerly)
Spy (formerly)
Status Deceased
First "A Dark Knight: Pax Penguina"
Appeared in 10 episodes (see below)
Portrayed by Andrew Sellon
"You worked me to the bone. Forced me to be your puppet. Well, no more. You hear me?"
—Arthur Penn to Oswald Cobblepot[src]

Arthur Penn, later known as the Ventriloquist,[2] was an accountant working for the Penguin and a former high-ranked member of the Cobblepot crime family. Before Cobblepot became the most powerful mob boss in Gotham City, Penn used to work for Carmine Falcone for many years. When Sofia Falcone eventually came to Gotham, she forced Penn to serve as her spy in Penguin's organization and instructed him to hire Professor Pyg in order to destroy the Pax Penguina system. Following Sofia's demise, Penn made peace with Cobblepot and once again worked as his accountant.

He later beame a ventriloquist-themed gangster during the events of No Man's Land, using a dummy named Scarface. Penn developed a split personality and started to believe that the puppet was alive, not realizing that his second persona was responsible for operating Scarface and voicing him through ventriloquism.


When Carmine Falcone was still the ruling crime lord of Gotham City, Mr. Penn used to work for the Don for many years up until his retirement to Miami.[3]

After Jim Gordon arrests a criminal carrying one of Penguin's licenses, Arthur Penn visits Bullock at his office. Penn tells Bullock that Penguin worries about Jim being compliant, but Bullock assures him that the GCPD will honor the licenses. Later that day, Penn was one of the guests at the grand opening of the Iceberg Lounge, Cobblepot's new nightclub in the Coventry district. Alfred Pennyworth and Bruce Wayne were secretly watching Penn at the opening party after they had learned that he was responsible for carrying the list of all the Pax Penguina licenses. At night, Bruce Wayne invaded Penn's office dressed in a vigilante suit and told the scared accountant to hand over the list. Even though Arthur refused at first as he feared the Penguin's anger, Bruce Wayne quickly took the list from him before vanishing again.[4]

A few weeks later, Sofia Falcone came to Gotham, whereon Don Falcone called Mr. Penn and asked him to keep an eye on his daughter. However, Sofia found out shortly after and threatened to kill Arthur if he refuses to provide her with inside information about Cobblepot's criminal empire.[5]

Arthur Penn informs Penguin that 14 percent of crimes are happening outside of his Pax Penguina. Sofia Falcone comes in and asks Penguin to come with her to lunch. Sofia tells him that it would show everyone that he has the support of the Falcone family, which could help to get him 100 percent compliance.[6]

Jim comes into the Iceberg Lounge, to see if Penguin has any leads on Officer Dave Metzger's murder. Arthur Penn informs Jim that a man named Wally Clarke recently applied for a burglary permit for a butcher shop called The Pork Barrel. Later, Zsasz and Penn present Penguin with evidence that Sofia seems to be up to something behind his back. Penguin tells Zsasz they will "visit" Sofia immediately and find out what she's doing.[7]

The Sirens raid the Iceberg Lounge at the time when Arthur Penn was waiting for Cobblepot to send further instructions. Tabitha Galavan tortures Penn on where Cobblepot is. She is unable to get any information out of him.[8]

Hidden From the Mafia

While looking for something they can use on Sofia Falcone, Harvey Bullock meets with Carmine Falcone's former Scandinavian hitperson Agnes who directs them to Arthur Penn. When encountering Oswald Cobblepot on the streets after Edward Nygma helped him escape from Arkham Asylum, he informs them that Arthur Penn tends to frequent a resort called the Spa Bo'sh Sumka outside of Gotham City near the Tricorner island. As Gordon and Bullock head there, Sofia gets word from Victor Zsasz and Headhunter that Arthur Penn is at Spa Bo'sh Sumka, causing Sofia to lead them and some Falcone crime family members there. Gordon and Bullock find Arthur Penn there amongst the baby-dressed patrons. Penn states that he used to work for Carmine Falcone before his retirement. When he worked for Cobblepot, he had to also work for Sofia Falcone when he was threatened by her. In addition, Penn mentioned that he was the one who told Carmine what his daughter was doing.

Just then, Sofia shows up with Zsasz, Headhunter, and some unnamed Falcone crime family members. Headhunter, Zsasz, and Sofia end up in a gunfight with Gordon and Bullock. While Sofia fought Gordon, Headhunter and Zsasz chased after Bullock and Penn. After the two of them escaped in Lee Thompkins's car, the Zsasz and Headhunter gave up the pursuit and went to get smoothies when they saw the police cars come into view.[9]

No Man's Land

Working for Penguin

After the Cataclysm, Penn was among the citizens that stayed in Gotham. He made peace with the Penguin, who had previously wanted to kill him after he learned that Penn secretly worked with Sofia Falcone. During No Man's Land, Arthur once again served Cobblepot as an accountant, counting the reserves and managing the organization. On Day 87 into the No Man's Land crisis, Penn took part in a propaganda ceremony at Gotham City Hall, where the Penguin tried one of the newly manufactured bullets in front of his intimidated servants.

Penn leading negotiations with the Sirens.

Later at night, Cobblepot sent Arthur to the Sirens territory in Coventry in order to negotiate with Barbara about exchanging Penguin's munitions for some of her meat reserves. Tabitha Galavan was still grieving for her beloved boyfriend Butch Gilzean who was murdered by Cobblepot three months before and told Barbara to cancel any negotiations with Penguin. When Barbara explained that they desperately need the munitions, Tabitha took one of the bullets Arthur had taken to the Sirens club for Barbara's inspection. Galavan told the accountant that Oswald would regret giving her the bullet before she left the office.

On Day 88, Penn visited his boss at the city hall office to inform him that the ammunition factory had to be shut down once again because a worker fell into a hydraulic press after passing out from hunger. Arthur tried to convince Oswald that he should give his people more food supplies. However, Penguin rejected the proposal, claiming he doesn't have enough supplies left even though he himself lived in luxury at his headquarters and clearly had access to excellent food.

Penguin later returned to City Hall in pain after getting shot in the leg by Captain Gordon, having failed to take the supplies from the helicopter that was shot down. While a doctor removed the bullet from the injured leg, Oswald threw a tantrum while Penn tried to calm him down so the doctor could do his work. Furious, the Penguin grabbed Arthur by the collar and yelled at his accountant to put a massive bounty on Gordon's head.[10]

After not wanting to feed his people enough, Oswald's employees, including Penn, escaped to Haven in the GCPD territory.

Apparent Death

Penn falls into unconsciousness, before being declared dead.

When the gangs betrayed the Penguin, they wanted to sacrifice Penn since Oswald previously sacrificed two Street Demonz thugs. Oswald objects and unties Penn, but the leader of the gang shoots Penn in the chest. As he lay dying, Penn revealed to Oswald that everyone had left him because they hated him, before passing out in Oswald's arms due to trauma, falsely assumed to had died.[11] He later woke up confused in the morgue.[12]


"I'll take 'em all on! Yeah! Show 'em who's boss."
—Scarface revealing his plans to Penguin and Nygma[src]

Traumatized from the shooting at Haven, Penn escaped from the GCPD morgue and hid in an abandoned magic store, where he found a mysterious ventriloquist dummy named Scarface. Arthur suffered a split in his personality and started to believe that the dummy was alive and talking to him, even though his second personality was responsible for operating the dummy and making him talk through ventriloquism. In the following weeks, Penn told Scarface all about his employer Oswald Cobblepot, including how he was mistreated by him over the years. Regardless, Arthur wanted to see Penguin again, but the dummy refused to allow it. Later, Penn also mentioned the secret treasure Oswald had accumulated in a hidden room underneath the Gotham City Hall. Scarface soon decided that he wanted the treasure and also to become the new dominant crime lord in Gotham, whereon he instructed Penn to take him to Cobblepot. He hid the dummy in a leather case and tracked down the Penguin at the Gotham City Public Library, where Oswald was meeting with the Riddler in order to oversee the construction of their submarine.

Arthur and Scarface

Penguin was delighted to learn that Arthur had survived the attack at Haven. Now that the two were reunited once again, Cobblepot immediately asked his former accountant why he waited all these weeks until revealing himself. Penn responded that he always wanted to see him, but that "he" would not let him go. When asked who he was referring to, Arthur opened his case to show him the wooden dummy, whereon he proceeded to introduce Oswald to "Mr. Scarface". Confused, the Penguin told him that Scarface was just a puppet. When he realized that Penn actually believed that the dummy was alive, Oswald advised him to have a rest and perhaps see a therapist. He then added that afterwards they would discuss Penn resuming his former duties and explained that he would not pay him for the time he was gone.

However, the Scarface persona then suddenly came to life and insulted Oswald, before ordering Penn to kill Penguin's bodyguard Dale in order to show that they are serious threats. Arthur then began to draw a pistol and said "forgive me" before proceeding to shoot Dale. Scarface laughed and told Nygma and Cobblepot to hand over their weapons, which Penn commented with the words "if you don't mind". Penguin asked Arthur to calmly talk about everything, but Penn shot at the floor in front of his former boss and Scarface then shouted at Oswald to get back. Penn apologized to Cobblepot who then requested to know what happened after Haven and how Penn turned into the Ventriloquist.

Penn returns as the Ventriloquist

Scarface allowed his lackey to explain his origin story, how he woke up in the morgue and later hid in an old magic shop where he met Scarface. The dummy then added that Penn told him all about Oswald, especially how badly he treated his accountant over the years. Cobblepot disagreed with Scarface's statement, calling it a lie, but Nygma then started to argue with Oswald as well and claimed that this is exactly what he does all the time. After Penguin asked Penn about his goals, he responded that he does not want anything, but that Scarface plans to take over Oswald's criminal empire and treasure in order to become the new dominant crime lord in Gotham. Oswald began to laugh at the idea of a dummy in charge of the underworld and explained that there is no reason for him to hand over the key to the treasure room since Scarface would want him dead anyway. Nygma told him that this is what he deserves, since Oswald has always been opportunistic, disloyal and was constantly willing to hurt other people to get what he wanted. Edward told Scarface about his and Oswald’s plan to escape Gotham in a submarine. Scarface decided to spare Edward, but figured that Oswald still had to die.[13]


Oswald tried to talk to Penn, saying he never asked him to kill anyone. Penn realized Oswald was right, but when Oswald talked about how they had started together, the Scarface persona lashed out at him saying that Penn was starving while Oswald’s dog ate meat. He told Oswald that all he did was take, influencing Penn, who added that Oswald never gave back. Edward presses a button causing a shrill shriek that distracted Penn and Scarface long enough for Oswald to try and wrestle the gun away. Penn and Scarface struggled for the gun, but Oswald managed to point the gun at the Scarface puppet and blow it’s head off, freeing Penn from its influence, but Penn was shot and killed by Edward immediately after.[14]

"Mister Cobblepot...You freed me. How can I ever thank you?"
—Arthur Penn's last words to Cobblepot, moments before getting shot by the Riddler[src]


  • Accountancy: Penn is an incredibly skilled accountant, able to keep track of the finances and transactions of whole criminal empires. He was also given the task of assembling the crime licenses during the Pax Penguina event.
  • Triple agency: Arthur managed to secretly work for three powerful crime lords at the same time, namely Oswald Cobblepot, Carmine Falcone and Sofia Falcone. He was mainly Penguin's accountant, but also informed Don Falcone about Sofia's actions when she came to Gotham. However, Sofia found out and only let Arthur live when he offered her to be her informant in Cobblepot's crime family. However, Penn was still loyal to Carmine and Penguin, since he informed Don Falcone about Sofia's connection with Professor Pyg and advised Oswald to order a hit on Sofia.
  • Network: Due to his history as the accountant of several mob bosses over the course of many years, Arthur has access and connections to various crime families and gangsters. He was the one who put Sofia Falcone in contact with professional contract hitman Lazlo Valentin.
  • Survival expert: Penn has a wide knowledge of how to stay alive in the mob business, as shown when he offered Sofia to be her informant in the Cobblepot crime family, knowing that she would accept this offer and keep him alive for that task. He is also aware of the fact that a bearer of bad news often gets blamed by crime lords and becomes a victim of 'shooting the messenger', therefore he quickly leaves as soon as he delivers unpleasant information.
  • Master tactician: He was capable of hiding his affiliation with Sofia Falcone from experienced crime bosses Carmine Falcone and Penguin. Penn also cleverly tried to eliminate Sofia by proxy by advising Cobblepot to have her killed by Victor Zsasz.
  • Leadership: Arthur has at least some rudimentary leader skills, as shown when he managed to organize the remaining henchmen at the Iceberg Lounge during Penguin's absence and ordered them to wait for Cobblepot to send further instructions.
  • Ventriloquism: Arthur is a good ventriloquist as shown when Scarface's personality dominates him.
  • Skilled Marksman: Arthur was able to shot to one of Penguin's militiamen while he was holding Scarface.


  • Double Personality: the result of the constant abuse that mr. Penn suffered from Oswald's part was that Arthur developed a second personality, much more violent and rude, channeled by the Scarface puppet.
    Arthur and Scarface's personalities struggled to take control of the body, but the fight was over when Riddler blew the doll's head off.



  • Arthur Penn is the show's version of the Batman villain "The Ventriloquist." Prior to FOX giving Gotham Season 5 two extra episodes, producer John Stephens stated that the Ventriloquist and Scarface were cut from the season and will only be alluded to via easter eggs. The extra episodes allowed them to use Arthur again together with Scarface.[15] While Arthur is never properly referred to by the title in the episode, he was called the "Ventriloquist" by the official Gotham Twitter account.[16]
    • Had Gotham continued beyond season 5, the Ventriloquist and Scarface would have appeared as recurring villains during seasons 6 and 7. Andrew Sellon compared what his role would have been like with that of characters like Poison Ivy, who appeared in multiple episodes per season and had their own story arcs every year. However, when it was decided that the show had to end after a shortened season 5, these plans had to be discarded. Penn and Scarface were originally also meant to have a much bigger arc during No Man's Land in season 5, which had to be cut almost entirely due to the low episode count the show was given for its final season.[17]
    • The Ventriloquist was originally already meant to be a villain during season 4.[18] According to Danny Cannon, there was going to be an episode called "The Ventriloquist", which he would have written.[19]
  • In the DC Comics, the Ventriloquist is a legacy name used by multiple supervillains. The original and most recurring is Arnold Wesker, a gangster with a dominant split personality that he associates with his puppet Scarface. While Wesker is a meek, quiet man, his Scarface personality is a ruthless criminal mastermind who commits violent crimes and treats Arnold as his servant. The character was created by Alan Grant, John Wagner, and Norm Breyfogle and first appeared in Detective Comics #583. (February 1988).
    • The second Ventriloquist is Peyton Riley, who took over the mantle and appropriated the Scarface puppet after Wesker's demise. Wesker's death was subsequently retconned by The New 52.
    • The third Ventriloquist is Shauna Belzer, a member of the Secret Six and an enemy of Batgirl. She is a sickly telekinetic that is obsessed with her physical appearance and is a fangirl of serial killers. She is portrayed as more deranged than her predecessors and has romantic relations with her puppet Ferdie.
    • Penn appears to be mostly inspired by Arnold Wesker, as they are both portrayed as meek accountants with connections to the mob. At one point in "Nothing's Shocking," Penguin accidentally calls Arthur, "Arnold", which acts as both a reference to Arnold Wesker and according to Andrew Sellon, a possible indication that Arthur Penn is in fact, Arnold Wesker.
  • One interpretation is that Penn's Scarface personality is a manifestation of his repressed anger toward Oswald Cobblepot, which reached its climax when he was left for dead in the morgue.
  • Arthur is the first live-action incarnation of the Ventriloquist. A second live-action Ventriloquist (who was the Arnold Wesker version) made a cameo appearance in the 2018 series Titans.


  • In the continuity of Gotham, Penn/Ventriloquist was the first member from the actual Batman rogues gallery that met the masked Bruce Wayne in his vigilante suit in "A Dark Knight: Pax Penguina" - even though Penn was not yet revealed to be the Ventriloquist at the time of the episode. While Penn is the first member of the classic rogues gallery to have met the masked vigilante, a few unnamed muggers had previously encountered Bruce in his suit in the episodes "Heroes Rise: Heavydirtysoul" and "A Dark Knight: Pax Penguina".
  • For his work as the Ventriloquist on Gotham, actor Andrew Sellon has been made an honorary member of the International Ventriloquist Society.[20] Sellon was also interviewed for the Ventriloquist Society's June 2019 issue.[21]
  • The events of the episode Nothing's Shocking seemingly leave it ambiguous as to whether Penn has really developed a split personality that manifests in Scarface. Mr. Penn claims to have met Scarface in a magic store, indicating that Scarface may have been haunted. At one point, Penn himself interrupts and continues off of what Scarface says, possibly indicating a slip in a possible facade due to the intensity of the moment. 
  • The fact that Mr. Penn was allegedly murdered by the Street Demonz leader might be a reference to the comics in which Ventriloquist and the Street Demonz are mortal enemies, even leading to a brutal gang war for territory in one storyline.
  • For the episode "Nothing's Shocking", Andrew Sellon and Seth Boston briefly discussed the idea that Scarface wouldn't be able to pronounce the letter "B". In the Batman comics, Scarface is usually unable to pronounce the letter "B" and is known to call his nemesis "Gatman" instead.[22]
  • There were also alternate plans for Mr. Penn's first death in "Penguin, Our Hero". The writers originally considered that Penguin would kill Penn for betraying him and running away to Haven. However, Robin Lord Taylor and Andrew Sellon agreed that this would not fit the relationship between their characters that was developed over the run of season 4 and 5, causing the writers to abandon that idea.[23]
  • Arthur Penn is one of several original characters to take on a pre-existing mantle from the comics. Others include Francis Dulmacher, Griffin Krank, Jason Skolimski, Bridgit Pike, Butch Gilzean, Theo Galavan and Nathaniel Barnes. Pike, along with Richard Sionis (the precursor to Black Mask), would go on to be introduced in the comics themselves.
  • Andrew Sellon, the actor for Mr. Penn, is a ventriloquist in real life, something of which the producers weren't aware of when he was hired for the show. 
  • In "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship, The Grand Applause", it is mentioned that Penn often smelled of fish. According to Andrew Sellon, Mr. Penn was paid so little by Penguin during season 4, that Arthur had to live in a tiny one-room apartment over a fish store.[24]


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